GOT: Greg's Obscure Types, Update [Archive] - The Great Planes and warbirds Community

GregP

28th November 2006, 09:36

Hi robertf2,

My database is mostly military (95%) from about 1935 forward.

Interesting aircraft. What is it? Three-engined aircraft are interesting to me, but you might tell me what it is ...

With Monday Night Football going on, an ID search is not indicated ... :)

robertf2

28th November 2006, 16:42

I saw it at Bathurst airport about a month ago and I said to myself "that looks like a 3 engine Dove with Gypsy Majors". I took and posted the pic on another board and this was the answer.

http://avia.russian.ee/air/australia/dehavilland_drover.html
http://www1.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraft_genericsearch=De%20Havilland %20Australia%20DHA-3%20Drover&distinct_entry=true

Romantic Technofreak

29th November 2006, 03:58

Hi Greg,

I think you are aware that it is impossible to produce documentations as I use to do with the GOT topics about 452 types within proper time. From your intitial list you posted on Nov. 13th, 2004, there are still about 30 types to do. If I need one ore two months to complete one, you see how long it takes...

There is still the chance for everybody here to express a special request for a special type for me to do next. As long as nobody requests, I follow my own (secret!) schedule... :)

Regards, RT

GregP

29th November 2006, 08:54

Hi RT,

The new list was not a request to speed up or change, just a list to give choices. My list of "obscure types" is by no means complete. It is just as far as I have gotten in researching "obscure types."

Meanwhile, thanks a lot for your interest to date. We will gladly accept the texts as you show them to us.

And ... robertf2, thanks for the links!

Lightning

29th November 2006, 22:08

Hi RT,

Quoting you:
quote:I think you are aware that it is impossible to produce documentations as I use to do with the GOT topics about 452 types within proper time.
C'mon RT! No excuses now. We expect a report of not less than 500 words on each-and-every-one of those GOTs. You've got a reputation to uphold! :D

Regards,
Lightning

GregP

30th November 2006, 07:37

Go get hin Lightning!

Heck, it takes a lot of time just to get basic data on that many types much less a story on each.

Grifo

1st December 2006, 18:42

Hi Greg,
What about putting in your list the italian Piaggio P.108B four-engine bomber?

Only 24 were actually built, beside civil and military transport versions.

Data (from "Ali d'Italia # 15 - Piaggio P.108") are following

Span: 32m, Lenght: 22.92m, Height: 7.70m, Wing Area: 135.34sq.m, Engine: Piaggio P.XII RC 35, Qty: 4, 1350Hp each.

Cheers

GregP

2nd December 2006, 10:51

Thanks! I have full data on the Piaggio, but my data do not agree with yours. Wait till I get back home and I'll look it up.

GregP

4th December 2006, 02:23

According to my database, there were 163 Piaggio P.108Bs made, and 15 total P.108C and P.108T models (captured by the Luftwaffe and used on the Russian front).

Grifo

4th December 2006, 13:53

quote:Originally posted by GregP

According to my database, there were 163 Piaggio P.108Bs made, and 15 total P.108C and P.108T models (captured by the Luftwaffe and used on the Russian front).

Hi Greg,
below there is the excerpt from Ali d'Italia regarding the actual quantity and type of P.108 built during war.
I'm not an experted in this field, but even for my basic knowledge 163 P.108B built sounds like greatly overestimated.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1059285/p108Btext.jpg

Cheers :)

GregP

4th December 2006, 14:22

Hi Grifo,

Thanks for the information. We get our data in various places, and part of the problem with the internet as well as many references is disagreement within data.

Since the P.108B never made itself famous in nay way, I'll assume the production number of 24 is correct.

It was a good enough aircraft that if 163 were made, there would surely have been a large raid at some time. ... and there are none recorded.

Grifo

5th December 2006, 01:02

quote:Originally posted by GregP

It was a good enough aircraft that if 163 were made, there would surely have been a large raid at some time. ... and there are none recorded.

Exactly my thought :)

Romantic Technofreak

5th December 2006, 03:28

Finally I made up my mind and decided to spend more time in front of the computer screen for to write on GOT topics... I know I have to drive faster to come so, so I installed a JATO booster on my car...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/Coridano/Jato.jpg

Surely I can do much more now. But I fear, after some time the nice boys with the white jackets are coming...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/Coridano/InternetAddiction.jpg

(the crazyness matches for this one being my 888. posting on tgplanes.com...:D:D:D)

Regards, RT

GregP

5th December 2006, 08:24

Nice telescopic eyeballs hanging out of the car, RT!

I knew you were a handsome devil from your posts ...

Lightning

5th December 2006, 23:28

Hi RT,

Since the cost of car insurance here in Germany is based largely on the car's power, I wonder what that jet "booster" is doing to your insurance rates. :D

Regards,
Lightning

Romantic Technofreak

6th December 2006, 13:08

Hi Lightning,

for the JATO booster I have a contract with the "DARWINIA" institute... and the charge is free!!! Only thing is, in case of a fatal accident, I agreed to get listed in the "Darwin Award" files...:D:(;)

Regards, RT

Lightning

6th December 2006, 22:36

Hi RT,

Quoting you:
quote: Only thing is, in case of a fatal accident, I agreed to get listed in the "Darwin Award" files...
Somebody in the USA (in California, I think) has beaten you to it. Several years ago this guy hooked up a JATO bottle to his car. He chose a nice straight, long road for his high-speed thrill ride. He touched-off the JATO (actually RATO) and off he went--literally.

Once started, the JATO can't be shut down or even throttled back, so he was along for the ride regardless of how it turned out. Once his car reached flying speed, it took off and gained around 100 feet of altitude. That was bad enough, but apparently he veered to the side and contacted a cliff rising up from the ground.

That year, he was awarded (posthumously, of course) the Darwin Award.

Regards,
Lightning

Romantic Technofreak

7th December 2006, 00:19

Sure, Lightning. I admit I have copied...[:0];)

Regards, RT

Wuzak

7th December 2006, 10:23

Have you guys ever seen Mythbusters?

In one of their early episodes they tested the myth that a guy strapped a sidewinder to the top of his Chevy and did some amazing speed. They couldn't get a sidewinder to use, so they ended up with a battery of 3 model rockets on the top, firing sequentially.

The car was radio controlled (because none of them wanted to drive it!), and the controller in a helicopter (so the car didn't get out of range of the controller).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JATO_Rocket_Car

robert

7th December 2006, 17:15

quote:Originally posted by Lightning

Hi RT,

Quoting you:
quote: Only thing is, in case of a fatal accident, I agreed to get listed in the "Darwin Award" files...
Somebody in the USA (in California, I think) has beaten you to it. Several years ago this guy hooked up a JATO bottle to his car. He chose a nice straight, long road for his high-speed thrill ride. He touched-off the JATO (actually RATO) and off he went--literally.

Once started, the JATO can't be shut down or even throttled back, so he was along for the ride regardless of how it turned out. Once his car reached flying speed, it took off and gained around 100 feet of altitude. That was bad enough, but apparently he veered to the side and contacted a cliff rising up from the ground.

That year, he was awarded (posthumously, of course) the Darwin Award.

Regards,
Lightning

This story has been debunked as an urban legend.

http://www.snopes.com/autos/dream/jato.asp

Lightning

7th December 2006, 22:26

Hi robert,

quote:This story has been debunked as an urban legend.
Kill-joy! [V]

Regards,
Lightning

Romantic Technofreak

8th December 2006, 02:59

Most remarkable thing here is that our long-time-missed fact champion Robert is back again!!!:)

Regards, RT

robert

8th December 2006, 05:21

quote:Originally posted by Romantic Technofreak

Most remarkable thing here is that our long-time-missed fact champion Robert is back again!!!:)

Regards, RT

Thank you - nice to be remembered! :)

GregP

8th December 2006, 09:14

Welcome back Robert!

47.2% of our readers remember you and the rest THINK they do. :)

Join the fun again and let's have some friendly fights about WWII aircraft ...

Lightning

8th December 2006, 18:49

Quoting RT:
quote:Most remarkable thing here is that our long-time-missed fact champion Robert is back again!!!

Hear, Hear!!! (or is it Here, Here!!! ?) In any case, welcome back, robert.

Is there any truth to the urban legend circulating that you had left us for bluer skies at another forum? :D

Regards,
Lighting

Lightning

8th December 2006, 19:17

Hi robert,

I was just browsing the "Darwin Awards" going back over the past decade or so. It is interesting to know that the "JATO Car" story was believed by the judges in 1995. The story persisted as being true for quite a while until finally being debunked in later years.

I always thought it to be on the very outer edge of credibility, but I must admit that, since the Darwin judges believed it and made the award, I also fell for it.

In my own defense, however, I must state that people do some very strange and unbelievable things--some of which, although even more bizarre than the JATO story--are absolutely true!

Regards,
Lightning